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From: GK <glendor2@...>
Subject: Re: Re: GMRS bands
Newsgroups: gmane.recreation.radio.hardware.kenwood.th-f6a
Date: 2008-03-25 10:39:43 GMT (16 weeks, 4 days and 12 minutes ago)

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TH-F6A] Re: GMRS bands

 
Jonathan,
 
First off thank you. thank you for not being condasending to what i am trying to do.  I am not sure why my license does not come up on the FCC website.  I have paid $85 for my license.  With my FCC radio station authorization letter in hand with a call sign that states WQIK399.  i also have my FRN # but i probably should not publicize that.  the effective date is 03-04-2008 with an expiration of 03-04-2013.  i do not know how else to prove that i am not some "made up call sign type" that some are claiming i am.  anyway......
 
He is right, he does have a GMRS License.
 
the reason that i am trying to accomplish this is the type of service that i provide during some professional and amateur bicycle races.  I provide something called "Neutral Support" during the race.  Basically think of it as a team mechanic that follows the race in a car through the country and cities.  well i am not team affiliated, i am "Neutral" and am there to provide support to all racers regardless of what team they are racing for.  If the racer had a mechanical problem e.g. flat tire or crash we are there to fix them as fast as possible in order for them to complete the race.
 
Then why not talk to a local ARES group or RACES group? Our RACES group is doing a couple events this year. It gives them the practice in setting up their equipment and using APRS to report positions.
 
well now that you know WHAT i am doing, i am sure that you want to know WHY i need these bands available.  well to put it plainly $$.  my company does not have the $$ to provide good radios (Kenwoods')for the entire crew 5-6 people.  We are not the only ones on radios.  These races have licensed officials that officiate the races during the races.  They are always on a licensed  frequency band.  We need to be able to hear what they are saying because sometimes they communicate with us "neutral support" but we also need to be able to talk to each other without bothering the officials.  we need to be able to basically have our own freq. 
 
And you have money for the big fines if caught? If it is under YOUR license, YOU will be the one paying the fines!
 
I am the ringleader of the show, i want to be able to communicate to both my guys and the officials when needed, and this radio seems to be the answer.  i will honestly be in this scenario only a handful of times a year (if that). 
 
I would HIGHLY reccommend that you get one of the officials radios and transfer messages from the officials to your team. Again, the ARES or RACES groups would probably like the practice.
 
so i hope this helps explain why i am trying to do what i am trying to do.  other than caring 2 radios (one cobra GMRS type and one that the officials communicate on) i don't know how to accomplish this.  and 2 radios just dosen't work.  i have done it before and it is too cumbersome.  During the race i am actually riding on the back of a motorcycle waiting for some action.  more radios than are really needed just weigh me down.
 
Let's see.... a little weight versus fines and possibly jail time.... hmmm.
 
i don't know am i completly nuts for trying to do this off of this radio?  again i have not purchased it yet but i was planning on doing it soon.
 
You know, if the mod is not successful, you just ruined a $300 radio (back to the cost thing again).
help me if you can
 
also please help my ignorance how would i get caught doing this?  not that i do not believe that i COULD get caught because anything is defiantly possible i am not niaeve, but really how does one get caught doing this? 
 
Local police departments as well as State police are being trained to watch out for more stuff since 9/11. I am not saying that they WILL catch you, but somebody else could notice and say something.
 
Why not find a local Amateur club, take a class and get your Amateur license? It takes $14 and a test. You could even study online just look up Amateur Radio Testing in Google for a testing site in your area. www.w5yi.com and www.arrl.org are two of the major VEC's. Do not take a chance on getting caught. Do it legal, it is MUCH cheaper in the long run. Besides, once a licensed Amatuer, you will see what we mean about this hobby.
 
Good Luck,
Gary
 
thanks!
 
Sean
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan [mailto:jondaniels37643 <at> yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 04:27 PM
To: TH-F6A <at> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TH-F6A] Re: GMRS bands

Sean,

While no one here will judge you for what you post, be aware that
actually doing this (using a TH-F6A for GMRS) will cost you more than
a GMRS radio will if you get caught. Forfeiture Orders are generally
in the thousands of dollars and very rarely less than several hundred
dollars.

On top of that, I can't seem to locate an active amateur license for
you (by name or FRN) so, probably no use for the TH-F6A other than
this GMRS idea that you present.

With that said, you can get GMRS band cut antennas from several of the
same suppliers that provide other antennas for similar radios. Some
may need a short adapter but, almost any GMRS antenna (or properly
tuned mobile antenna) will work.

Could you please help us understand better your need for a Th-F6A on
GMRS freqs so that maybe we could better assist you in meeting your
needs?

I, and some other members of this group, use both Ham HTs and GMRS
handhelds and have some experience dealing with them both. I for one,
and it appears others, are willing to help you succeed in your project
but we're a bit confused as to the more specific reasons for your
choice of radio given your licensing situation at present.

SHORT ANSWER: Yes, grab a ham radio suppliers catalog (AES for
example) and look around it. (In my latest AES, the GMRS stuff is near
the back.)

Longer Answer: Tell us more about why and we'll see what we can do to
help you succeed!

Jonathan, K4ETC
Also: WQIK446
(new GMRS after ex-wife finally departed my life and household)

--- In TH-F6A <at> yahoogroups.com, "otterouttawater" <sean <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Hi, i am planning on purchasing this radio to be able to use it in
> conjunction with the 462.5 GMRS bands after i have gone through the
> mod. my question is, is there a better antenna to use for this
> frequency?
>
> thanks!
>
> Sean WQIK399
>

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