Subject: Re: Determining latest stable release.
Date: Wednesday 28th March 2012 22:08:31 UTC (over 5 years ago)
On 03/28/2012 10:34 PM, Clark Williams wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:27:19 +0200 > "Wolfgang Wallner"<[email protected]> wrote: >> What is the relation between these stable releases and what the OSADL >> calls 'latest stable'? >> [..] >> https://www.osadl.org/Latest-Stable-Realtime.latest-stable-realtime-linux.0.html >> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:00:22 +0200, Clark Williams<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> [..] >>> The stuff that Steven releases is the stable series, while Thomas >>> does the devel releases. So if you're not looking for the latest and >>> greatest, I'd stick to what Steven releases. > I think we'll have to ask Carsten about his stable release criteria. It > may be that he's being more conservative than us and staying on a 2.6 > kernel. Yes, indeed. We made the (probably naive) promise to not label a kernel version "Latest Stable", unless there are no known bugs or regressions. This means that all our development systems in the QA Farm must be running this kernel for at least a month under all appropriate load scenarios without any problem. Please note that some of the load conditions have been introduced only recently, so it may be harder than ever for a kernel to pass these tests. But we need these benchmarks in order to reliably discover performance regressions. In addition, with the increasing use of Linux in safety-critical systems we need to provide a stable software basis on top of which additional tests and procedures can be built. Many of the pending problems of the RT versions of the 3.0 and the 3.2 kernel have been solved recently, and we now are very close to label one of the 3.x kernels (probably 3.2) "Latest stable". The most important problem that really needs to be solved before we even can thing to go "Latest Stable" are crashes of unknown origin during heavy file I/O. Only relatively slow and mostly single-core systems are affected. Since the systems simply stop without any output, our progress with this issue is very slow. Except this and another regression that may not be important for the majority of RT users, the 3.x RT kernel is pretty stable and has impressive real-time capabilities. Such systems, if thoroughly tested, certainly may be used in a productive environment. However, the extra guarantee and confidence levels of an OSADL "Latest Stable" kernel unfortunately are not yet available. Hope this helps. -Carsten. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in the body of a message to [email protected] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html