Gmane
From: <Mark.Andrews <at> isc.org>
Subject: Re: Advance: Opcode Discover
Newsgroups: gmane.ietf.dnsext
Date: 2003-05-01 22:08:55 GMT (6 years, 9 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours and 51 minutes ago)

> Erik
> 
> DNSEXT recommends the advance following document to experimental status:
> www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dnsext-opcode-discover-01.txt
> 
> Background:
> We had a last call concluded on this in November, the last call
> required some minor changes in the document.
> The editors concluded the edits in December.
> Subsequently one of the editors sent in a request to have his name taken
> off the draft, chairs waited for this to happen in a new version.
> This particular editor has rescinded the request. Thus the document can
> now be advanced.
> 
>          Olafur & Randy
> 
>  > From: Ólafur Gudmundsson/DNSEXT co-chair <ogud <at> ogud.com>
>  > Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:33:40 -0500
>  > Subject: DNSEXT WGLC Summary: Opcode-discover-00
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>  >
>  > This working group last call has concluded.
>  > This work meets the technical criteria to be to be published as 
> EXPERIMENTAL.
>  >
>  > Authors are requested to make the following changes before the document
>  > is advanced to the IESG.
>  >
>  > 0. Number all sections that have titles.
>  > 1. In the last paragraph before IANA consideration:
>  >    Add a comment that a responder to DISCOVER, in some cases is not a
>  >    traditional DNS server, it could be a special purpose software.
>  > 2. References section needs to be broken into two "Normative References"
>  >    and "Informational References", please fill out references fully.
>  >
>  >        Olafur
>  >
>  >
> >This starts a 2 week last call for this document, the document is
> >slated to be published as EXPERIMENTAL.
> >
> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dnsext-opcode-discover-00.txt
> >
> >This document specifies a new opcode that is used to discover DNS servers
> >within the multicast scope of the address sent to.
> >
> >The authors main focus is to get a IANA assigned opcode for experimentation,
> >does this document provide enough technical details for the framework to be
> >experimented with.
> >
> >This working group last call completes on August 30'th 2002.
> >
> >         Olafur
> 
> 
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	Paul ask me to look at implementing this and I found that it
	was unimplementable as specified.

e.g.
	DISCOVER works like QUERY except:

	...

        3. if QDCOUNT==0 then only servers willing to do recursion should
           answer. Other servers must silently discard the DISCOVER request.

	Well QDCOUNT==0 results in FORMERR for QUERY.   I don't think we
	want FORMERR returned in this case.

e.g.
	"Compute the zone name of the enclosing in-addr.arpa, ip6.int, or
        ip6.arpa domain." 

	How do you determine this?  Are you expected to compute the full
	reverse name then remove labels after each probe fails.

	Mark
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