Subject: Attn: Development Editor, Latest Caml Weekly News Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.ocaml.weekly-news Date: Tuesday 4th December 2012 10:52:31 UTC (over 4 years ago) Hello, Here is the latest Caml Weekly News, for the week of November 27 to December 04, 2012. 1) phantom types and identity function 2) Github OCaml mirror available 3) creating a module from a #use directive in the toplevel 4) Other Caml News ======================================================================== 1) phantom types and identity function Archive: <https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list/2012-11/msg00232.html> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ** Ivan Gotovchits asked and Jacques Garrigue replied: > These simple signature > > module type T = sig > type 'a t constraint 'a = [< `A | `B ] > val init: [`A] t > val f: [`A] t -> [`B] t > end > > can be used to constrain the following module > > module T : T = struct > type 'a t = unit constraint 'a = [< `A | `B] > let init = () > let f x = x > end > > where identity function successfully satisfies the constraint > > [`A] t -> [`B] t > > but in the following module > > module T : T = struct > type 'a t = {x:int} constraint 'a = [< `A | `B] > let init = {x=0} > let f x = x > end > > the same identity function doesn't satisfy. In the first case, a type abbreviation is used. Since ('a t) expands to (unit), the parameter is completely ignored, so that you can replace it by anything. In the second case, you define a concrete type, so that the parameter is not forgotten. Note that you cannot even use subtyping for that: let f x = (x : [`A] t :> [`B] t) fails too. But there is an easy workaround, defining in two steps: type u = {x:int} type 'a t = u constraint 'a = [< `A | `B] ** Gabriel Scherer then added: I have been a bit confused by this discussion, and found the relevant part of the manual that may enlighten other list readers: The OCaml Language, Type and exception definitions <http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/manual-ocaml/manual016.html#toc54> "If the type has either a representation or an equation, and the parameter is free (i.e. not bound via a type constraint to a constructed type), its variance constraint is checked but subtyping etc. will use the inferred variance of the parameter, which may be better; otherwise (i.e. for abstract types or non-free parameters), the variance must be given explicitly, and the parameter is invariant if no variance was given." Note that this would not be needed if we had an explicit way to express the variance of invariant (the variable appears in both positive and negative positions) and irrelevant (the variable doesn't appear except in irrelevant positions) explicitly. We could then write, say: type 0'a t = {x : int} constraint 'a = [< `A | `B ] The absence of such a variance marker means that some OCaml code is hard to abstract through a module boundary: in presence of the explicit definition, the type-checker will accept to subtype between any instances of the type (by simple expansion), but if you abstract over its definition you cannot express this property anymore. Your workaround corresponds to statically expressing this irrelevance through an exported equation, but there are (arguably somewhat unnatural) scenarios where this isn't convenient. ** Ivan Gotovchits then asked and Gabriel Scherer replied: > And now I'm confused much more =). Please, could you explain the > relevance between subtyping and type restriction? > > When I try to restrict type [t -> t'] by the some type [r -> r'] does > the compiler checks that [r -> r'] is a subtype of [t -> t']? And even > if it does, in my example > [`A] t -> [`B] t > > [[`A]] is clearly not a subtype of [[`B]] (and vice versa). So I do not > see how an explicit variance specification can help. I was reacting mostly to Jacques' remark that "you cannot even use subtyping for that". The relation between subtyping and "constraint" is as explained in the manual excerpt I quoted. The following is valid: type 'a t = {x : 'a} ;; let f x = (x : [ `A ] t :> [ `A | `B ] t);; but the following is not: type 'a t = {x : 'a} constraint 'a = [< `A | `B ];; let f x = (x : [ `A ] t :> [ `A | `B ] t);; Error: Type [ `A ] t is not a subtype of [ `A | `B ] t The first variant type does not allow tag(s) `B The reason for this behavior is that in the first case, t was inferred covariant, while the presence of a constraint disables variance inference (in the manual: "otherwise (ie. [...] for non-free parameters) the variance must be given explicitly)"). You can make the constrained version work with an explicit variance annotation: type +'a t = {x : 'a} constraint 'a = [< `A | `B ];; let f x = (x : [ `A ] t :> [ `A | `B ] t);; Finally, while in this example 'a occurs positively in ('a t), in your example 'a did not occur at all. In this case it is correct to coerce from (foo t) to (bar t), whatever the type expression (foo) and (bar) are -- they don't need to be in a subtyping relation. The following works: type 'a t = { x : int };; let f x = (x : [ `A ] t :> [ `B ] t);; I'm calling this form of variance "irrelevant" to highlight that the parameter can simply be ignored when checking for subtyping (some people call it "nonvariant", but it's kind of awkward if you already use "invariant" for the opposite notion of appearing both in positive and negative position). The OCaml type checker can use some restricted form of it (eg. the previous example), but you cannot abstract over it: there is no variance annotation to express that. Jacques' workaround replaces the definition of a new constrained type with a constrained type synonym, that is not checked using variance but direct expansion. But that works because you know what the definition expands to. In general there may be situation when you want to say "type 'a t, where 'a is not used" but not expose a (potentially abstract) non-parametrized type u such that "type 'a t = u". While we're at it: are you sure you need to play with phantom polymorphic variant types now that we have GADTs? I have used phantom types in the past, but my personal use cases would be profitably rewritten using GADTs. They tend to produce hairy error messages, but phantom polymorphic variants are not better in this regard. ======================================================================== 2) Github OCaml mirror available Archive: <https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list/2012-11/msg00257.html> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ** Anil Madhavapeddy announced: There have been quite a few Git mirrors of the OCaml compiler tree floating around for the past few years. I've grabbed the "OCaml" organisation on Github, where key community projects can be hosted such as OASIS, the ocaml.org website, and a mirror of the compiler itself. You can find it at: <http://github.com/ocaml/ocaml> The conversion scripts were based on Benedikt Meurer's very useful guide, with the exception that SVN tags and branches are converted into native Git tags, and an authors file exists. You can find the scripts that drive it here: <https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml.org-scripts/tree/master/vcs-sync/svn-ocaml> For those concerned about Github being a proprietary service, I'm also setting up a git.ocaml.org mirror of all the repositories hosted on Github. This will be ready in a few weeks. Note that the compiler Git repository is a *read-only mirror*, and that all active development occurs within the INRIA SVN, and issues should continue to be reported via Mantis: <http://caml.inria.fr/mantis> Thanks to Leo White and Christophe Troestler for helping with getting this working! Please consider this experimental for a few weeks in case any issues come up with the scripts that cause us to delete the repository and recreate it. If anyone feels strongly about needing a Mercurial mirror, please also get in touch. ======================================================================== 3) creating a module from a #use directive in the toplevel Archive: <https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list/2012-12/msg00005.html> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ** Francois Berenger asked and Gabriel Scherer replied: > Is there a way to do something like this in the toplevel: > > module M = (#use "source_for_module_m.ml") ;; See this discussion on the caml-list: <https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list/2012-11/msg00021.html> and in particular this message of Gerd: <https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list/2012-11/msg00024.html> and this one by Grégoire: <https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list/2012-11/msg00032.html> Grégoire's #mod_use directive has been included in trunk ( following bug report <http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=5825> ), so it may be available by default in future versions of OCaml. ======================================================================== 4) Other Caml News ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ** From the ocamlcore planet blog: Thanks to Alp Mestan, we now include in the Caml Weekly News the links to the recent posts from the ocamlcore planet blog at <http://planet.ocaml.org/>. Performance improvements in the universe checker of Coq: <http://gallium.inria.fr/~scherer/gagallium/union-find-and-coq-universes/index.html> Fixing stack overflows using continuations: <http://gallium.inria.fr/~scherer/gagallium/stack-overflow-continuations/index.html> Journée de cours Ocsigen à Paris - Développement d'applications Web en OCaml: <http://ocsigen.org/> How to implement dependent type theory III: <http://math.andrej.com/2012/11/29/how-to-implement-dependent-type-theory-iii/> A note about the performance of Printf and Format: <http://www.lexifi.com/blog/note-about-performance-printf-and-format> ======================================================================== Old cwn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you happen to miss a CWN, you can send me a message (alan.schmitt-o/5/jSaJEHk+NdeTPqioyti2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org) and I'll mail it to you, or go take a look at the archive (<http://alan.petitepomme.net/cwn/>) or the RSS feed of the archives (<http://alan.petitepomme.net/cwn/cwn.rss>). 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