Subject: Re: Lua next version Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.lua.general Date: Wednesday 24th June 2009 00:21:51 UTC (over 9 years ago) Maybe we just need some terminology... Here are some ideas: A table T is an "array", or a "pure array", or an "array, possibly with holes" when its non-nil entries all have keys whose values are positive integers. See the function table.maxn (<http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-table.maxn>). A table T is a "regular array" when there is a non-negative integer, #T (see <http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.5>), such that all the non-nil entries in T have keys that are integers in the interval [1, T.n], and for none of these integers we have T.n == nil. A table T is an "old-styled array" when it has a field T.n whose value is a non-negative integer, and all its other non-nil entries have keys which are integers in the interval [1, T.n]. The "shortest array part" of a table T is composed of its entries with keys 1, 2, ..., until just before the first nil. The "longest array part" of a table T is composed of its entries with keys 1, 2, ..., table.maxn(T). The following functions (untested!) can be used to check the pure-array-ness and the regular-array-ness of tables: function ispurearray(T) local n = table.maxn(T) for k,v in pairs(T) do if type(k) ~= "number" or k < 0 or k > n or k ~= math.floor(k) then return false end end return true end function isregulararray(T) local n = 1 for k,v in pairs(T) do if T[n] == nil then return false end n = n + 1 end return true end And these functions pack a list of arguments - including trailing nils! - as old-styled arrays, and unpack old-styled arrays into lists: function oldstylepack(...) return { n=select("#", ...), ... } end function oldstyleunpack(T) return unpack(T, 1, T.n) end For more on old-styled arrays look for the occurrences of "arg.n", "getn" and "vararg" in <http://www.lua.org/manual/4.0/manual.html>, and also in the old PiL: <http://www.lua.org/pil/5.2.html>. There's another notion of "array" too... the article <http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~lhf/ftp/doc/jucs05.pdf> explains that nowadays Lua tables are represented internally as an "array part" plus a "non-array part" - but as far as I know this is totally transparent to a user working in pure Lua, and there is no way to obtain the size of this "(internal) array part" from pure Lua... in <http://www.lua.org/source/5.1/ltable.c.html> these parts are called simply the "array part" and the "hash part" of the table... One thing that is very confusing to beginners is that Lua - the program, i.e., the interpreter, the libraries, etc - doesn't care ***AT ALL*** whether a table is or is not a pure array, a regular array, or an old-styled array... for Lua-the-program all these things are just tables, and table.maxn has a definite behavior on them, and # has a behavior that is slightly less definite, but still well-documented enough, and that is well-defined on tables whose shortest array part and their longest array parts are the same; in particular, #T is well-defined when T is a "regular array"... So, we have several different notions of the "size" of a table T: 1) table.maxn(T), the size of its longest array part (including its nil entries) 2) the size of its shortest array part; 3) #T, that may be the size of shortest array part of T, or table.maxn(T), that is the size of its longest array part, or some integer in between, subject to the conditions T[#T] ~= nil and T[#T + 1] == nil; 4) the total number of keys - or key/value pairs - in T, 5) the size of its internal array part, or that size plus the size of the "hash part", or some measure in bytes for that; 6, 7...) etc, etc... Usually the "size" of T is #T, but the fact is that people get confused about this too often... 8-\ Comments welcome, cheers, Eduardo Ochs [email protected] http://angg.twu.net/ On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Miles Bader |
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