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From: Shane Isbell <shane.isbell-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w <at> public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Android Open-Source Project on devices
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.handhelds.android.platform
Date: Saturday 26th September 2009 14:55:13 UTC (over 8 years ago)
We are willing to open-source SlideME Market client (SAM). We are all
heavily into open-source. Henrique, our portal architect, is the
project lead for the Drupal AWS module project and puts all of our AWS
integration code here (http://bit.ly/j6Ci). I'm also founder of Masa
Maven plugins for Android - http://code.google.com/p/masa/

SAM has always been the one piece we have had trouble generating an
developer interest for. We started as open-source (http://
code.google.com/p/slideme/) but eventually closed it down due to no
community interest. If there is community interest (and by this I mean
people willing to work on the code because they see a need), I'll re-
open it as ASL 2.0. The code needs TLC and there is a lot of room
feature improvements. Of course with this, we would publish the specs
for our catalog interaction.

Henrique can expose any APIs from our portal that the community would
need for additional features such as comment and ratings, which I
haven't had time to add (I also handle a lot of the business side of

SAM has already passed QA at HTC and is distributed on-device in some
regions. You can see some screenshots here: http://slideme.org/sam SAM
supports catalog screenshots, video, paid applications, etc.  I think
we do a lot of things better than Android Market and with community
development, I can see it going much, much further.


On Sep 26, 6:59 am, Jean-Baptiste Queru
> At the technical level, I think that we'll be exploring a few directions:
> -the port(s): like Jey said, in an ideal world we'd be able to repo
> sync, make, and fastboot onto a G1 (or on any other device that is or
> becomes relevant for AOSP). I'm in a position to take care of the repo
> sync part, and we can improve the "make" part itself (fastboot is
> already working).
> -the current set of apps: we will properly configure the set of apps
> that are built in the default AOSP build (e.g. we're missing the Email
> app), and we'll configure them and fix the bugs that prevent them from
> working properly in the existing configuration.
> -apps that aren't currently into AOSP: I think that we'll be looking
> at a few options:
> (1) working with the existing Google apps as they exist on the ADP1,
> within the limits set by the license for those apps as can be found on
> HTC's web site (and that obviously prevents redistributing images, so
> it creates its own set of concerns).
> (2) including or creating some new redistributable binaries that are
> hosted in AOSP.
> (3) including or creating some new open-source components that are
> hosted in AOSP.
> To expicitly answer Al's question, I'm open to having non-open-source
> bits in there, but I'll look at a few aspects:
> -the conditions under which those bits are redistributable.
> -how essential those bits are to the operation of other components,
> and especially open-source components.
> -whether there exist practical open-source replacements.
> About Gray's question and writing apps that would access non-Google
> equivalents of the ADP1 apps: I think that the people who'll get
> involved here are more likely to have Google accounts than just about
> any other account, i.e. that apps that interoperate with Google are
> likely to be more valuable than apps that interoperate with other
> services. Also, to be frank, Google pays the bill for a lot of Android
> (including my own salary).
> About amiuhle comments on the way Market works: let's not go down the
> line of reverse-engineering the Market protocol or any other
> undocumented Google protocol for the purposes of AOSP. If Google makes
> Market available for community images, we'll use that. If we can use
> the Market app without making unauthorized copies, we'll use that. If
> Google documents the protocol itself (along with whatever keys might
> be necessary), we'll use that. If it's practical to consider
> alternative sources for apps, we'll use that (and that's not mutually
> exclusive with using Market).
> --
> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> Software Engineer, Android Open-Source Project, Google.
> Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private
> will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further
> warning.

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