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Subject: R500 initial driver release announcement Newsgroups: gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg Date: 2007-06-12 18:55:38 GMT (1 year, 30 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours and 48 minutes ago) Over the past couple of months, a small group of people has been working on reverse engineering the r500-based AMD video cards. Everyone involved worked on this in whatever free time they had, which is why this has taken so long. The code released today is able to initialise and set video modes on rv515 and rv530 (X1300 up to X1600); we still lack proper initialisation for r520 & r580 (X1800 and above, some X1600) because of lack of time and hardware. The Xorg driver was put together by Daniel Stone who also did a lot of the initial reverse engineering, Matthew Garrett who provided helpful assistance on the driver and feedback, Kyle McMartin who cheered us up and provided insightful comments, Oliver McFadden who also helped in testing the driver, and Jérôme Glisse who did the rest of the reverse engineering and driver work. We are also, of course, very thankful to the X.Org, DRI and Mesa communities (which in fact is the same community with different names), who provided help to the few of us who did not have a whole good understanding of everything involved in mode setting. The knowledge for good randr 1.2 support is already gathered and available in the register descriptions. We might add this in coming days as time permit. This effort has been done in order to provide the best support to AMD graphics card consumers, without any help of any kind from AMD. We believe that a good driver supporting this cards can only be an open source driver where everyone with enough skills or time to acquire needed skills can fix things. The current roadmap is: - Find out missing bits for r520 and r580 hardware initialisation, - RandR 1.2 support with a dumb memory allocator, - Simple 2D acceleration (we will put more focus on 3D acceleration as now Xorg provides infrastructure to best utilise 3D drivers to display the desktop, thanks to the Glucose interface), - 3D reverse engineering: We believe that this engine is very similar to the r300 3D engine which has already mostly been reverse engineered, - TTM DRM driver for proper memory management, - and likely port the driver to new DRM modesetting work. Help is, obviously, welcome for any of these. We are lacking people with time and interest for working on reverse-engineering r5xx. Don't believe anyone who tells you that only rocket scientists can properly write a graphics driver: you mostly just need to understand how a GPU works (not much more complex than a CPU's vector unit), and know how to code in C. Of course here is the URL to grab source code: git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/avivo/xf86-video-avivo Please note that this is intended only for people interested in working on this and normal users should not try it yet as it actually needs you to add your graphic card pci id in order for it to work. Jérôme Glisse on behalf on the r500 crew: Daniel Stone Matthew Garrett Oliver McFadden Kyle McMartin Here is a personal view on the matter: I would like to take advantage of this announcement to stress that AMD hurt its consumers by not providing specifications of their hardware to the open source community which end up in providing a bad experience to them. I also believe they are no sensible technical informations in this specifications as proven by others graphics manufacturer who give out specifications: XGI; or good driver source code well documented almost as good as specifications: Intel. So, AMD, please be respectful of the community and at least give a detailed motivations and reasons for not providing your graphics hardware specifications. I look forward to the day when the open source community will be able to work with AMD for providing to AMD's consumers the best experiences with their hardware on any open source operating systems. Jérôme Glisse |
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