Subject: Re: [gsc] Ianasa ("um")
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.finance.gold-silver-crypto
Date: 2008-07-04 15:22:36 GMT (27 weeks, 6 hours and 35 minutes ago)
Expires: This article expires on 2008-07-18
2008/7/4 Ian Green <eternulo@...>: > Well, not really a province of anything! Leonard (not Rupert as I > accidentally typed previously) called himself a "prince" when he > declared independence, rather than a "king", specifically so that he > could claim to be a loyal subject of the Queen, so that Australia > would not get all violent and attack his defenceless wheat farm. > > His problem was that the Australian government arbitrarily decided > that through their "single desk" (government-monopolist) wheat > marketing company there would be production quotas in order to > maximise the wheat price for Australian producers as a whole. > Unfortunately they decided that Leonard's entire production was > surplus! Rendering him totally unable to sell his production! > Sounds like Zimbabwe and the IMF et al. Darren. > After his declaration of independence he was notionally at war with > Australia, but without any intention of provoking hostilities. While > the Australian government did not officially recognise him, (thus, you > cannot officially use a Hutt River Province passport to enter > Australia), they did apparently leave him alone, although he, from > what I hear, makes "voluntary" financial payments in lieu of taxation > (in return for postal and other services) in order for Australia not > to consider his independence to be merely a tax dodge, and therefore > bring the power of the Australian Taxation Office down upon him, which > would be quite different than the threat of military action, which the > military well knows that he is merely an elderly man and his wife and > family, who is NOT going to hurt anyone, so it wouldn't be in the > terms of engagement of any Australian military force to attack a > clearly peaceful person like that. > > It takes non-defence force personnel, as we have seen in "America", to > attack people for not making a military threat. Prince Leonard has > effectively mitigated this threat, and now, ironically, his major > economic activity is not wheat farming, but tourism! ;) > > When my Dad was on his way around Australia a few years ago, on my > prompting, he called in there and spent some time with Prince Leonard > and his wife (Princess Shirley). I think there are also a number of > aborigines on the property, who are free to cross back and forth over > the HRP/Western Australia border, but he appears (appeared) unwilling > to test the (Commonwealth of) Australia government's patience by doing > anything provocative like allowing additional settlers or refugees or > anyone else to migrate to HRP, which would offend Australian > government immigration policies, which, obviously apply not only to > the nation of Australia, but to the entire continent (of Australia), > plus the claimed, surrounding islands and territories, whether or not > they are within the continental shelf. ... Effectively, Australia > exerts control over its territory PLUS the 200 mile (or whatever > distance it is) fishing control zone surrounding it. > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:37 PM, R.A. Hettinga <rah@...> wrote: >> >> On Jul 3, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Ian Green wrote: >> >>> Hutt River Province >> >>>> >> Cheers, >> RAH >> Province of *what*, exactly...