Subject: Re: [RNG] on RNGs, VM state, rollback, etc.
Date: Sunday 20th October 2013 04:38:31 UTC (over 4 years ago)
John Denker writes: > On 10/19/2013 09:27 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: > >> Go ahead and mix in stuff like the RTC and the MAC address > >> if you want, but you'll have a hard time convincing anybody > >> that such things are sufficient. > > > > I just convinced you that the number of bits contributed to the > > entropy at start-up time is small, didn't I? If I didn't, why didn't > > I? > > Uhhh, that's the answer to a different question. We > agree that the amount of available entropy is "small". > My point is that it is too small. Crypto without a threat model is like cookies without milk. You're making a claim about the security of a cryptographic algorithm without specifying the threat model. You are, technically, in a state of sin. I forgive you my son. Your penance is to memorize another 30 digits of pi. -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog _______________________________________________ The cryptography mailing list [email protected] http://www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography