I understand that Gabe Goldberg, I think, did succeed in getting OS390
2.5? from IBM for this purpose some years ago.
   You might also be able to acquire  Partner World for Development copy
and a Flex-es thinkpad. 
   It really does, unfortunately, still remain the case that running on
Hercules is a license violation in all but the most limited and specific
cases.

> James McGovern wrote:
> 
> Ordering from ShopZSeries doesn't tell me how to acquire it for author
> purposes. I am looking for the direct channel for who can send me a copy
> IBM employee or not. This request has absolutely zero to do with work,
> hence my point. Pursuing work related channels is inappropriate. I do
> hope that lurkers from IBM actually figure out the RIGHT channel to serve
> my request.
> 
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Dave Gibney [mailto:gibney@...]
>      Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:05 PM
>      To: turnkey-mvs@...
>      Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] Re: Downloading Z/OS
> 
>         In the case of z/OS, it appears that often does mean close
>      to %100 in
>      the eyes of the owner, IBM.
>         If you could get a license, it's a simple matter of ordering
>      a serverpac
>      from Shopzseries.
> 
>         Please send me a working copy of Windows XP, Oracle 9i and
>      10g. I'd like
>      to play with Peoplesoft also, so please send anything you have.
> 
>         Just joking by the way. I've heard that there are plenty of
>      warez sites,
>      but I don't indulge.
> 
>         If you really do work for The Hartford, you should check
>      with the legal
>      department. I don't know if they are IBM customers but your
>      constant
>      requests must have come to the notice of the IBM lurkers by
>      now.
> 
>        And please take it to the advocacy list.
> 
>      > James McGovern wrote:
>      >
>      > Often does not equal 100%. Kinda like our president making
>      everything
>      > illegal because it often is used for immoral things even
>      though it has
>      > the potential for being moral...
>      >
>      >      -----Original Message-----
>      >      From: Ted Rolle [mailto:ted@...]
>      >      Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:54 AM
>      >      To: turnkey-mvs@...
>      >      Subject: [turnkey-mvs] Re: Downloading Z/OS
>      >
>      >      "Share" often = steal
>      >      Decreasing morality.
>      >
>      >      --- In turnkey-mvs@..., "James McGovern"
>      >      <james <at> a...> wrote:
>      >      > MessageWould love to understand the dinosaur mindset
>      of
>      >      IBMers. How come
>      >      > those who grew up in the 80s and 90s are willing to
>      share
>      >      software
>      >      but those
>      >      > who have been in the field for 30 years and work on
>      >      mainframes are so
>      >      > "formal" in how they acquire software.
>      >
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